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Postaj by Roland on ned lip 01, 2014 10:47 am

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Postaj by Roland on ned lip 01, 2014 11:34 am

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Re: L'Etoile

Postaj by Roland on ned lip 01, 2014 11:37 am

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Termanto

Postaj by Dida on pon lip 02, 2014 11:59 am

@Roland je napisao/la:Ispuna je od materijala trgovačkog naziva "termanto".
Tražio sam taj Termanto u Exco-u u Sisku. Nemaju ga, nisu nikad čuli za njega. Exco, inače, prodaje građevinski materijal. U kojem tipu trgovina bi to trebalo tražiti? Je li Termanto srodnik poliuretanske pjene?

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Postaj by Nonić on pon lip 02, 2014 4:57 pm

@Dida je napisao/la:
Tražio sam taj Termanto u Exco-u u Sisku. Nemaju ga, nisu nikad čuli za njega. Exco, inače, prodaje građevinski materijal. U kojem tipu trgovina bi to trebalo tražiti? Je li Termanto srodnik poliuretanske pjene?

Nešto se sjećam,počelo je pred 40.tak godina pod trgovačkim nazivom Airex.Kasnije se mogao kupovati u Italiji pod nazivom termanto.Ekspandirani PVC.Mnogo se upotrebljavao za sendviđ konstrukciju u maloj brodograbnji.
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Postaj by Dida on pon lip 02, 2014 5:09 pm

Nema mi druge nego put pod noge, pa u Rijeku po Termanto. Very Happy Moram prije malo proguglati "ekspandirani PVC", možda ima negdje bliže.

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Postaj by Mladen on pon lip 02, 2014 6:34 pm

Ako je to forex (expandirani PVC) može se naći u Zagrebu.Upotrebljavao sam ga u izradi reklama (podnice za slova) prije dosta godina, a u zadnje vrijeme kao zaštitu od dodirnog napona u razvodnim ormarima umjesto pertinaksa pošto je forex samougasan.Ako gos.Roland potvrdi da je to to naćićemo gdje ima u Zagrebu,a vjerujem da se i u Sisku rade reklame pa bi se našlo kod nekog majstora kakvih komadića.Sa forexsom sam se susretao u debljinama 3mm,5mm i 10 mm

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Postaj by Dida on pon lip 02, 2014 6:48 pm

Mladene, molim te baci pogled na ovu stranicu: Foreks. Kako se foreks obrađuje? Šmirgl papirom, turpijicom - jesi li probao?

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Postaj by Tamburash on pon lip 02, 2014 6:59 pm

Mozda bi bilo najbolje da nam Roland da malo vise informacija o materijalima koje koristi za izradu oplate, pod kojim imenom je i gdje se moze nabaviti. Mozda neki mali tutorial i tips and tricks Very Happy Jako me zainteresirao taj nacin izrade, te bi se svakako u iducem projektu okusao u takvom nacinu izrade...

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Postaj by Mladen on pon lip 02, 2014 7:01 pm

Koliko sam ga ja koristio rezao sam ga cirkularom, ubodnom pilom a tanki forex čak režem i skalperom.Dodatna obrada sa turpijom a u mom poslu nije bilo potrebe za šmirglanjem tako da neznam.Imam kod kuće komadiće od 3mm pa mogu probati sutra pošto nisam kod kuće.Mislim da bi ipak trebali pričekati potvdu od Rolanda dali je to taj materijal.Forex izgledom podsjeća na plexi ali nemjerljivo mekši

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Plexi

Postaj by Dida on pon lip 02, 2014 7:14 pm

@Mladen je napisao/la:... Forex izgledom podsjeća na plexi ali nemjerljivo mekši
Kada kažeš "plexi", misliš li na pleksiglas?

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Postaj by Mladen on pon lip 02, 2014 7:24 pm

Da, mislim na pleksiglas ali plexi je tvrdi materijal a forex mekan.Oba materijala se koriste za izradu svjetlećih reklama.Plexi je jako krut materijal i nemože se rezati skalpelom za razliku od forexa.

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Postaj by Roland on pon lip 02, 2014 9:06 pm

Termanto se koristi u maloj brodogradnji (sendvich sistem) stavlja se između vanjskog dijela plastike i unutarnjeg zbog čvrstoce i izolacije kupuje se u plocama 2x1m ima ga u zg sutra ću potražit ime firme koja ga prodaje

RADI SE O MALO MODERNIJEM PRISTUPU MAKETARSTVU.
Nekima se to sviđa, oni stariji preferiraju samo drvo, onda se rasuši popuca itd.
Ovim načinom izgradnje vijek trajanja makete nadživit će svih nas tamo negdje 2358. godine ako nekome dođe u ruke ova maketa, čudit će se da je još cijela a god proizvodnje 2014.!
Idemo redom: nije stirodur nego termanto!!! Ne otapa ga niti jedna smola. Furnir lijepim epoxy lijepilom kojeg sam namiješam epoxy+mikrobalon+aerosil. To su najmoderniji materijali koji se koriste u brodogradnji tipa AMERICAN cup, vjerojatno ste vidjeli najnovije katamarane.
Trup, tj termanto, mazati samo smolom nema koristi, dobila bi se samo kora koja bi pucala kod svakog malo jačeg pritiska. Znači, dovoljno je 2 super tanka sloja ROVINGA; to je ona fina mrežica, vidi se na slikama u početku gradnje!
Da trup bude čvrst kao čelik, naravno, ja ga još zapečem na 80 stupnjeva 8 sati, što je kod epoxy smole vrlo preporučljivo...
Koliko god to izgleda komplicirano na kraju se isplati.
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Termanto

Postaj by Dida on sub lip 07, 2014 5:52 pm

Evo što se može naći o Termantu:

Polyvinylchloride (PVC) foam: This is a type of rigid foam that cannot be cut with hot wire apparatus. The foam is available under different trade names (i.e. Termanto, Divinycell or Conticell) and comes with the weight densities of 30 – 400 kg/m3.

PVC foams can be sawn manually into smaller pieces of different shape and size and they are normally being used as sandwich materials for building full-size items such as the gliders etc.

Google prijevod, malo dotjeran:

Polivinilklorid (PVC) pjena: To je vrsta pjene koja se ne može rezati s aparatom s vrućom žicom. Pjena je dostupna pod slijedećim trgovačkim nazivima: Termanto, Divinycell ili Conticell i ima gustoću 30-400 kg/m3.

Komadi PVC pjene mogu biti ručno razrezani na manje komade različitog oblika i veličine, a obično se koriste u izradi sendvič materijala za izgradnju dijelova za proizvode poput jedrilica i sl.

O toj pjeni ima više ovdje (ali na engleskom  Crying or Very sad ): PVC pjene.

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